• Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
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    5 months ago

    I love sending shit like the acorn video to one of the group chats I’m in, because my wife’s friend is a big believer in “not all cops” and “only a few bad apples”

    There’s always some excuse as to why it’s actually perfectly reasonable and justified.

    Can’t really justify mag dumping over a particularly loud tink of an acorn. Lots of silence about that one.

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      5 months ago

      How does this prove all cops are bad though? For that cop that mag dumped due to an acorn there has been thousands that made a better decision in a similar situation.

      There is no justification for the acorn incident but I don’t see how the incident proves they are all bad apples.

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        5 months ago

        It doesn’t, but the person they’re talking about apparently has a history of defending the bad ones. This event was so egregious even they couldn’t come up with anything.

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        4 months ago

        this one is just trigger-happy incompetence, but the phrase “a few bad apples” ends with “spoil the whole barrel” and the police are a perfect example of that. The way they close ranks and try to protect one another from responsibility for really egregious shit means that not every cop is a criminal, but that every cop ignores crimes that other cops commit.

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      4 months ago

      my wife’s friend is a big believer in “not all cops” and “only a few bad apples”

      does your wife’s friend know how the phrase “a few bad apples” ends?

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        Well if she didn’t before, me replying with the entire phrase every time she says “bad apple” in reference to cops informed her.

        I never understood why that phrase was ever used as if it were an excuse.

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          I never understood why that phrase was ever used as if it were an excuse.

          A thought-terminating cliche is a rhetorical device intended to end a discussion without actually resolving it. The idea is to say something that the other party more or less has to agree to without regard to whether it actually has any bearing on the discussion at hand, and then refuse to discuss further. This makes it seem like the discussion is over and, as the last person who scored a point, you’ve won. “It’s just a few bad apples” is one. “Let’s agree to disagree” is another. Trump almost singlehandedly invented one in the phrase “fake news”, which is ostensibly intended to mean “I don’t trust the source of that information” but is often used in an infinite regression where everything unfriendly to the arguer is fake news. It’s basically a deus ex machina for arguments; a way to escape a corner you’ve been backed into without ever admitting that you were wrong about anything.

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      4 months ago

      Plus his partner ran out and also fired her weapon without even knowing what the threat was (which I know because there was no threat to shoot at). She didn’t dump her mag at least, but I find that part to be just as alarming, or even more so, than the one who panicked about the acorn. She saw other cop shooting and just joined in by making a guess at what they were shooting at.