• Codex@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    FO3 must have been in the first wave of “game devs have children now, so every AAA game is about father-son relationships”. I wasn’t sick of the trope yet, and actually got really into the story FO3 wanted to tell. I played it close to release, did the self sacrifice at the end, and generally hold that experience in high regard.

    Then I loaded an earlier save and tried asking the robot to do it. I belive I had a mister handy follower, been a while, but of course it also refuses with some silly rationale. Bethesda games are both so immersive and yet full of these peeks backstage that constantly expose the artifice of it all (and the latent biases of their creators).

    It didn’t exactly ruin the magic of that first run, but it did make any subsequent plays feel very… toy boxy. I had kind of the same experience with Elden Ring and Skyrim, now that I’m thinking on it. That first playthrough is like watching LotR, then every other one is like smashing Gandalf and Orc action figures together (or playing any of the LotR games lol).

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      Since the DLC kinda requires you to be alive, they rewrote it so that Fawkes is just like “yeah that makes sense because I’m completely immune, sorry for not thinking of that sooner, lol”

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            Played through FO4 for the first time recently. It’s so sterilized of any “edgy” content that it hardly feels like the same universe. Let alone butchering all dialogue and making the game even more linear. Your dialogue responses really don’t seem to matter, at all.

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    Clearly should have been a moment for the player to decide. Having someone who is supposed to be a friend refuse to save you when it would be easy for them to do so is terrible writing.

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    7 months ago

    I litterally did a screenshot of that yesterday, because I played fo3 again, I wanted to post it some time today…

    are you betazoid or something?

    EDIT: It’s also especially funny, since Fawkes is imune to radiation

    EDIT2: In my screenshot I managed to get him into the chamber

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      Argh that was so frustrating-- His story seemed so tailored to help you specifically with that problem, and I felt so clever for trudging across the map to get him for that situation… It felt like a prank when he’s just like “oh great idea but no because reasons.”

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        Wasn’t Fawkes a woman? ETA: no, just looked it up. The character was supposed to be male. Wonder why I was thinking that…

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      7 months ago

      at least Broken Steel exists to have him actually accept helping you…

      except the game will still berate you for not being selfless.

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          Yeah it’s not selfless to enter a situation in which one person (you) will absolutely 110% die, when there’s someone right next to you who is 100% immune to the very thing that will kill you.

          In fact, I would say that anyone in that situation who wouldn’t immediately let everyone know “hey I’ll be perfectly fine doing this, so stand back I got this” is kind of a piece of shit.

          It’s literally “I would suffer no I’ll effects by doing this, but it wasn’t built by MY dad so go fucking kill yourself with it, tiny humie”

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            If they wanted you to die they should have come up with some reason why only you could do it. Like it could only respond to your DNA or something.

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      That’s was such a fo3 copout. The dumbest.

      Absolutely.

      They fixed it in the Tale of Two Wastelands megamod though, amongst many other things.

      ToTW with DLC is the only good way to replay 3 and a damn fine way of replaying NV too if you ask me. Even if you don’t!

      Edit: oops, seems it was Broken Steel that fixed that part. I stand by the rest, though.