• TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
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    life was not worth living under the circumstances he was in. Do you think that is selfish too?

    No I think it’s kind of different for physical pain, especially incurable.

    I have suffered with depression all of my life. If I didn’t have responsibilities like a family, pets, etc. I probably wouldn’t be here today. I’m not saying I’m better than Chester, nor am I saying that I was at the same level of suffering he was.

    I feel a lot of sympathy for him, and don’t think he was weak for it or anything. I do think that he abandoned his responsibilities, though. That’s all. No hate or disdain here. I feel for everyone involved. You seem like a good and empathetic person, FWIW. I just disagree a tad bit, that’s all.

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      No I think it’s kind of different for physical pain, especially incurable.

      Yes, that’s bigotry and the cause for this stigma regarding mental illness.

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        Its not bigotry. I feel like there are many many kinds of treatment for depression and they all should be exhausted first, especially in his situation. I would be okay with euthanasia if everything was tried, and if the person at least would have made a plan with a medical professional and family. Just like they would do in places where euthanasia for chronic pain is legal. I would be open to that idea. I just think there is a difference between suicide and euthanasia, I guess.

        Also, don’t get me wrong, Chester was very much a victim of his illness, and stigma around mental health is real. Stating the fact that he had a responsibility to his family doesn’t contribute to that, though.

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          Do you seriously think Chester spent his decades since the sexual assault with twirling his thumbs…? Euthanasia is barely a thing globally, only few countries offer it and usually not for people with mental issues, which is exactly my point here. Mental illness is treated like some secondary issue, even though trauma are rarely curable, anti-depressants having a tremendous failure rate and are heavy on side effects, while therapy often only tries to teach you to “cope” with your issues, rather than getting rid of them.

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            I never once said he didn’t try at all so way to discredit your point from the get go. What about ketamine treatments? Psychedelics? I highly doubt he tried everything is all I’m saying. He had the responsibility to “cope” for his family.

            I completely agree euthanasia should be a thing for extreme mental issues so you aren’t really saying anything different than I was there either.

            I like 90 percent agree with you and disagree on one little thing. You seem to just want to fight with me for slightly disagreeing on his responsibility as a father and husband.

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              What about ketamine treatments? Psychedelics?

              They’re not legal in most places and where they are you’d still have to find a place that offers them, which would be difficult on its own already.

              I highly doubt he tried everything is all I’m saying.

              He tried what he could, as does everyone. You just don’t accept his & other peoples capabilities.

              He had the responsibility to “cope” for his family.

              You’re the good old “you just have to kick yourself in the butt” type of anti-depressant.

              I like 90 percent agree with you and disagree on one little thing. You seem to just want to fight with me for slightly disagreeing on his responsibility as a father and husband.

              I want you to see your bigotry, that’s all.