• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    Onlyfans is an oddity wrapped in an enigma. Not only is there a ton of free porn + all the porn one can torrent but there are dozens of free cam sites out there. I mean dead free! One can watch thousands of nude models nonstop.

    There should be no reason to pay for onlyfans. Ever.

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      And yet, more and more women get onboard the OF train… you’d think people will get saturated with it after a while…

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    I mean, you know how there are a million free indie games and lots of slightly shady websites where you can download free copies of paid games? But lots of people still buy games because it’s a better experience or they like to feel like they’re supporting people who are making the kinds of games that they like? It’s a lot like that, but with stigma.

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      I still don’t get it…

      Call me an old fashioned pirate, but for me, it’s more about the trip than it is about the destination.

      I’ve been encountered with this fact about myself many times… I like this girl from somexxx.com website and I gotta take a look at what she’s got published. Low and behold, all sorts of content! OK, gotta pick and find them one by one, gotta be picky about it, 1080p rips only, no 720p bullshit… aaaand after days of searching and downloading… I GOT IT ALL 🤤! And then I don’t even watch it 😒. AND THAT PISSES ME OFF ABOUT ME 😤!

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    I know I might be a bit of a porn snob but since I have the means I will attempt to pay for my porn. It’s hard to know if any random porn video was made ethically and that the actors/actresses are being paid appropriately. That’s why I like onlyfans. This way I’m, mostly, assured the money is is going directly to the preformer(s).

    Not to say onlyfans can’t be predatory. As long as I am being descerning in my purchases I am comfortable with it. If an onlyfans model started wildly blurring the line of service provider and customer, I would recommend not paying for services any more. This can be difficult too because I know some of the services invovle intense interpersonal sexual fantasy. I would just say be careful. Especially if you find yourself struggling financially.

    Edit:

    This isn’t to say all free porn is ethically/morally wrong. I do still browse pornhub etc. I just don’t have the where withal to investigate every single content creator. You never know, the actor/actresses could seem as though they are producing the content at their own volition but there could be a business partner that is taking advantage.

    All this to say, we should be more careful when consuming porn.

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    It’s good to support creators if you like what they’re doing. I’ve supported Zishy in the past because they do high quality tasteful clothed/teasing photos of women who look like real women (not that there’s anything wrong with bimbos/plastic surgery). If you appreciate what someone is doing, monetary support isn’t unusual at all.

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    Just like with video games, the people paying for it are what keeps the supply going for the freeloaders. They should grateful to them!

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    Not quite OnlyFans, but when you have specific interests, you gotta find specific folks with skills tailored towards those interests.

    Source: Close buddy of mine is a furry fetish artist. Not suspiciously wealthy, but he’s full time drawing raptor asses.

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      I don’t get the whole furry thing but sometimes I wish I had artistic talents because I would have no qualms getting paid to draw whatever degenerative crap people are into these days. Seems like a solid side hustle.

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    I still don’t get why people spend money… there’s tons of it for free

    There are free video games. There are paid video games. Why do people pay for video games if free ones exist?

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      See, that also puzzles me, I really have no idea… especially since paid ones can also be obtained for free, so 🤷…

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        You really can’t get all paid content for free. Actually most paid content you won’t find for free. It’s not that easy.

        Sure if they’re a popular OF creator someone will likely be ripping their stuff but that dries up really quickly when you get to creators with like only a hundred patrons.

        The more niche you get the harder it is to find new content for free (pirated or not). That’s why people pay for it, they like the content and there’s no other way to obtain it (and they want to support the creation of it obviously).

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      There’s advantages to paying for video games, even single player such as cloud saves as one example. For multiplayer games you get online play with dedicated servers, rather than finding a workaround like LAN tunneling with pirated games.

      You literally get nothing special from paying for porn.

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        You literally get nothing special from paying for porn.

        You literally get the most special content by paying for porn, personalized content that’s catered to your needs. That’s literally why you pay for it.

        Yes, if I just want to see regular old sex I can just go to one of the bazillion free sites out there. But if I have a specific fetish that only a few creators are doing, of course it’s worth paying for it to support the production of said content, especially if their onlyfans allows requests.

        I totally understand that the vast majority of people are more than satisfied with typical porn and won’t ever feel the need to pay for it, but there’s so much diversity out there that the regular porn sites can’t get to it all, and that’s why some people pay for it, because they really want to scratch a specific itch.

        And before someone says you can just pirate it, trust me, some stuff you can’t even find pirated. I’ve been there. Some creators go through very convoluted methods of distributing their content to deter piracy (especially with pricier tiers fans usually don’t want to spread it to keep it exclusive to themselves).

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          I really doubt the majority of people paying for OF are getting content specifically made for them. This is a weird argument.

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    I think people don’t pay for porn, people pay to be able to interact with the girl.

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      Especially with those with 1000s of subscribers - how are people fooling themselves into thinking that they don’t have someone answering their messages for them?

      Some of the most popular ones have whole crews for filming - why should social media be something they do on their own?

      I kind of get it for the ones with few subscribers though

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        Our brains are highly effective at tricking us. And if a person is desperate for attention, they will fall into this trap. You’re thinking rationally, but there’s nothing rational about that in the right (or should I say wrong?) state of mind.

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          In that case, OF and sites like that do more damage than good. Instead of having a healthy real world relationship with someone, you get stuck in a dream world.

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            True. Real world relationships however are hard to obtain and hard to maintain. So many people, especially those that are deemed “not normal”, due to looks or behavior, are giving up on that and instead give in to these easy surrogates. It is sad, but not like society presents any solutions.

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    “I still don’t get why people spend money”

    Because you want to support specific content creators and free isn’t sustainable

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      Yeah, but for porn tho…

      Just beat your meat to standard stuff or meet someone IRL, rather than developing some unhealthy attachment to someone on OF who’s exploiting your desperation.

      I dunno, I guess if you just wanna pay for porn you like then it’s fine, but some people develop very unhealthy attachments/obsessions to supplement a real human connection.

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        It’s no different than subscribing to twitch/YouTube creators. The content is just different. There are plenty of people with unhealthy obsessions that aren’t related to porn.

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          You’re right, it’s the same as the lonely people being exploited by Twitch streamers or YT creators.

          There’s a point it goes from “supporting a creator” to “throwing money at someone so they acknowledge your existence and you feel validated”.

          Honestly part of the reason I stopped watching twitch, it’s just sad at a certain point as these people think they’re actually friends with the creator, rather than just enjoying the stream for what it is.

          The whole donation/sub part of twitch culture is disgusting imo.

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            A better example would have been patreon. I’ve never given money to an online content producer of any kind (except my monthly donation to Wikipedia), but if there’s one thing the internet is good at, it’s crowdfunding. Gofundme, patreon, onlyfans, twitch, kickstarter… it’s all the same.

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              True, but I think the key difference is that one is an exchange of services, and the other is taking advantage of peoples desperation for a connection, whether that be a romantic connection or just friendship.

              Satisfying physical urges with porn or supporting a twitch streamer you like is one thing, but these fake relationships between viewers and OF or twitch creators is wrong imo.

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                I feel like you’re way off mark on this.

                I subbed to a chick on Onlyfans because she’s my type and I jerked off to her videos.

                I would wager 95% + of the audience is just that, and not the “unhealthily obsessed” type that you are so hung up on.

                Cases like Grant Amato have got to be the exception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Amato

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        Yeah, but for porn tho…

        So what you’re saying is sex workers aren’t real workers and don’t deserve to be paid. If that becomes true and no one pays for porn, GUESS WHAT: no more porn. It has to be profitable for the people doing it. It’s not like art, the vast, vast majority aren’t doing it because they love it. They’re doing it for money.

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    I still don’t get why people buy books… there’s ton of it at library

    I mean ya, but not the book I wanted to read specifically.

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    Let us not disrespect the paying consoomer as they effectively sponsor the rest of us, especially those using adblockers

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          And they would still do it, even if no one pays for it. Why? In hope that someone will actually pay for it…

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            Here’s the thing: Yes, there are lots of people doing amateur and uploading to pornhub, and there are even some people doing higher quality stuff on free sites. And there are full videos pirated from pay sites.

            If all you want is to slob your meat to whatever is available, or if you just have very generic desires, more power to you. Personally, I have specific tastes and buying a year-long membership to Kink.com for $120 a year on Black Friday every year does not put a dent in my finances, but it does get me access to thousands of extremely high quality videos with great production quality that cater to my specific desires and are freely downloadable for me to save in Stash.

            I feel that is completely reasonable to either pay for porn or not pay for porn based on a number of factors. What I don’t understand is the willful ignorance of why someone might choose to pay for porn.

            The other thing that I can’t get behind is your insistence throughout this thread that people paying for porn isn’t what supports your ability to get free porn. It is, there are just no two ways about it. If people weren’t willing to pay money for porn, there would be a lot less of it and it would be way less accessible. Most people posting content on PH are doing it to advertise their OF profiles and if everyone who visited PH had an adblocker on, there would be no way for them to pay the massive hosting costs that come with being a streaming video provider of that size. By and large, porn exists because people will pay money for it, and your ability to access massive quantities of it is 100% funded by people who “pay” via ad impressions.

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              If people weren’t willing to pay money for porn, there would be a lot less of it and it would be way less accessible.

              Even if that was true, so what. There’s already tons of it available from decades of production. You can’t possibly watch all of it.

              You just wanna pay for porn, plain and simple… like I wanna eat burger from time to time. Now, if someone told me that there is free food (not a free burger, just free food) somewhere where they also serve burgers, I would eat the free food 9 out of 10 times, while you would pay for the burger 10 out of 10 times… if it’s on sale, maybe like 7 or 8 out of 10 if it wasn’t on sale.

              I do have specific kinks that I enjoy, but there really is A LOT of free or pirated content out there. I really really don’t see a point paying for it. Even if there is no pirated content, there really is a lot that is completely free… like I probably wouldn’t be able to watch all of it in a year if I watched porn non-stop, 24/7.

              Most people posting content on PH are doing it to advertise their OF profiles and if everyone who visited PH had an adblocker on, there would be no way for them to pay the massive hosting costs that come with being a streaming video provider of that size.

              Yet on the other hand, everyone here recommends using ad blockers when YT is in the picture… how is PH any different 🤨.

              In the end, they decided to go into this business, that comes with the teritory (ad blockers and all that)… and apprently, they’re not doing that bad, I mean, you can clearly see that the site is progressing.

              By and large, porn exists because people will pay money for it, and your ability to access massive quantities of it is 100% funded by people who “pay” via ad impressions.

              Paying with watching ads is not the same thing as plain out right paying for something. Besides, how much money will they get out of me watching ads 🤔? $2 or $3 on a yearly basis, and that is only if I watch A LOT of porn (ads are cheap nowadays). That is not what keeps the industry going, it’s the hope of being paid for someone seeing your content that keeps it alive. They might not get paid ever, or not enough (dead end content creaters, it is quite common nowadays, you see abandoned PH profiles or OF links), so they quit… or they didn’t advertise their content enough or in the right places… whatever the cause, it’s the notion of easy money that keeps the industry going, not being actually paid for porn. You know how many freebies porn scene newbies give out to try and get subscribers to their OF or MV pages? It is A LOT of content… and it’s all free 🤷.

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      Like what… ego boost 🤨… some chick mentions your name in her stream and you get a hardon from it 🤨?

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        You’re like me and poor but I’ve been around people with jobs and stuff who can afford to throw away money on things and they seem to really enjoy the transaction element to things.

        Like being able to use money to get what they want feels good to them because it kinda justifies their life being dedicated to making money. It’s different for different people but you see the ones who love to buy something others can’t have like five min in private video chat is exclusive so makes them feel special, or you get the ones who feel special by funding something for the group like reaching a target or funding a creator they like.

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      My mate, Paul, is addicted to cigarettes but he never has his own fuckin smokes. You telling me, he ain’t really an addict?

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        Wait… What… How?

        Is the the type to just smoke in a couple of puffs just to get the nicotine hits? Just give him a nicotine patch at that point.

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      Not sure but tell you what, I watch porn for at least 2 hours a day every day and I never once paid for it. Now I said 2 hours cause I don’t include hentai or hentai games in that. To be fair even thought I pirate most hentai games I did buy the ones that I really enjoyed and are on Steam. So no for porn I never payed I did however payed for hentai. And I most certainly have an addiction or at least a disorder considering the amount of time I waste on this!