• WintLizard@sopuli.xyz
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    10 months ago

    Final Fantasy 2 (actual 2 not the one with Cecil) is way underrated. Its got a dialogue system like Morrowind, skills that get better as you use them, a fantastic villian, and great story beats. Its also the first game to have Cid. Also also people love FF for the mix of fantasy and tech and 2 is the first game to really embrace that theme. 1 has a one off robot and the airship, but 2 really shows the empire abusing technology to retain power.

    SPOILERS SPOILERS [people love 6 because the world gets messed up, but 2 did it first with the empire destroying several cities] END OF SPOILERS

    And you have talking beavers and I think thats great.

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    10 months ago

    All Final Fantasy games have bad writing and cringe inducing dialogues. Which was fine when the games had no voice audio, but I just can’t stand it in the modern FF with voice overs. Square Enix really needs to hire competent writers that aren’t solely influenced by manga.

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      10 months ago

      Final Fantasy 8 is clearly the best.

      The junctioning system is super fun!

      It is totally not impossible to find General Caroway under that arch to continue the dialogue to progress the game. I definitely wasn’t stuck that way for years!

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      10 months ago

      The best Final Fantasy game is the one Final Fantasy game I played as a kid.

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    10 months ago

    Nostalgia creates some massive rose-tinted glasses.

    I’ve used to love FFVIII as a teenager and decided to buy it again for the Switch last year, but I legit couldn’t progress more than a ten-minute-interval without either cringeing at the characters or being angry about them in some way. Why are they all so edgy? Why are their decisions always so incredibly stupid? I eventually realized that the characters are basically what a 12 year old would consider to be cool adults when in reality they’re absolutely immature in every aspect.

    I really really tried to complete at least one playthrough again in the hopes that it would eventually get better, but snapped when the oh-so-mighty martial arts character, who had been showing off his melee skills in every effing cutscene, flat-out forgot that he has been fighting literal demons with his bare hands for the entire effing game only to realize AFTER a multiple day long imprisonment that he could just slap the guards around without having to get a weapon first. FFS how do you forget such a thing for longer than a week?!

    I guess the same kinda applies to FFVII because everyone I know who had played the game when it initially released still thinks it’s THE best FF game to date and they’re usually very very vocal about that opinion, and everyone who didn’t play it “back in the day” just couldn’t understand what was so great about it. I’m in the latter group BTW. I’m all for letting people enjoy what they want and I won’t try to ruin anyone’s fun with a game they like, but I am convinced that a huge portion of that hype is nothing more than nostalgia.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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      10 months ago

      I feel the same way. Loved it as a teen. Possibly because the characters were just like teenagers.

      It’s pretty cringe as a 38 year old trying to play through them again. And I definitely am not going to play for the gameplay. Even as a teen, I only played these for the stories because the combat is boring as fuck.

      And yet… Nostalgia hits like crazy. And, uh, Chrono Trigger still holds up, unlike most Final Fantasies.

      Edit: Final Fantasy 7’s remake is still kinda cringe with the dialogue and made for teens, but the gameplay is so different and there is also a cool twist going on with the story that it’s actually more fun than the original to me, and I loved it when it was new.

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    10 months ago

    When Squaresoft became Square Enix, the company died and took Final Fantasy with it and the first game they launched was a creepy fan service character assassination of a story.

    I honestly found it degrading going from vibrant story criticizing religion and tradition to playing harem dress up in skimpy clothes with three teenage girls in a story that honestly feels like it doesn’t go anywhere. It’s just creepy things happening with weird unlikeable overly sexualized characters and if you complete all the to-do list you get the ending you want in the most contrived way possible.

    Oh yeah Yuna gets with Tidus because she asks the fayth. The whole Vegnagun thing and all the half naked people and guys with greasy haircuts and people horny for the main chacters are irrelevant.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah. Final Fantasy X was Squaresoft and Final Fantasy X-2 was Square Enix. You can see the whole difference in design from the two companies.

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          10 months ago

          FFX-2 was Square as well. It was developed by a Square team and released by Square in Japan, not SquareEnix. In fact, it was the last Square Final Fantasy game to be released. This is all easily verifiable on Wikipedia, as well.

          The truth is that this was the direction they wanted to take the X universe, even had the same Director and everything.

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            10 months ago

            Oh wow, i always thought the merger/spirits within failure was the cause of the crappyfication of the final fantasy x game and all the terrible ones after it. I guess something else then.