A few years ago, the Lemmy Developers decided to keep their political views on lemmygrad while keeping lemmy.ml more neutral. Now they are banning users who are critical of their actions and bigotry.

Anti-Tankie posts may put you at risk of being banned from commenting and posting on the lemmy.ml instance.

  • goat@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    1 year ago

    MeanwhileOnGrad exists to catalogue and document hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Extremism that glorifies violence and bigotry should always be condemned.

    Nor do your arguments about making the fediverse a positive space even apply when the primary sources of such virulent hatred comes from self-defederated instances which do not interact with the rest of the fediverse.

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      1 year ago

      What’s the point of this cataloguing and documenting? All you’re doing is boosting bad posts and using them to paint entire communities with a broad stroke. If they’ve self-defederated, then maybe you should take that as a clue to leave them alone.

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        1 year ago

        The point is to show that these instances are hateful bigots. You can’t even make the painting whole community argument when it’s federated anyway, if they weren’t all bigots, they would federate and encourage some diversity.

        I trust you make the “leave them alone” argument over on their communities as well? Because I assure you that anti-tankie communities popped up in response to the harassment and hate-speech.

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          1 year ago

          Instances may federate or defederate for a wide range of reasons. That they chose to defederate doesn’t automatically make them bigots. Why would I go to their communities just to get in an argument? I’m starting to think you went over there to start some shit and then you got mad because they bashed you for it. I’ve been told “just go over there and look at the horrors” only to go and not see the horrors that are claimed to be there. Cherry picking bad posts doesn’t prove anything as the vast majority of posts are not like that, and I know this because I’ve gone and checked multiple times now.

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            1 year ago

            They chose to defederate because people kept dissenting against their abhorrent hate-speech.

            No one is allowed in their community anyway, to post, you need to pass a vetting process.

            I’ve been told “just go over there and look at the horrors” only to go and not see the horrors that are claimed to be there. Cherry picking bad posts doesn’t prove anything as the vast majority of posts are not like that, and I know this because I’ve gone and checked multiple times now.

            That’s why this community and MeanwhileOnGrad exist, to highlight the extremism and bigotry. Nor is it cherry-picking when it’s posted by the admins and prominent users of the instance.